Colombia DR650 Adventures & ADV Cannonball News

Taylor interviews Konrad Flemk in the Everyday Adventurer segment. Konrad is a Swede living in Jupiter, Florida where he can be found on his HD Fatboy cruising A1A. In this conversation, he talked about riding scooters in Sweden as a kind and in March 2023 he went on an adventure in Medellín Columbia. Konrad rented a DR650 which turned out that the thumper was the perfect bike for his ADV trip. They discuss planning a foreign trip from home and how those efforts turn into real adventure. Taylor and Konrad discuss the often erroneous security and corrupt policing concerns about solo moto-travel to Medellín Columbia. The 2023 trip was such a success that Konrad and his brother returned for another trip on October 24’. Konrad talks about his plans to meet up with his brother down South in the near future. 

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Transcript

Welcome to the ADV cannonball podcast where we discuss all things on two wheels, the adventure bike cannonball, and other motorcycle-related nonsense. Alright. Welcome to Adventure Cannonball podcast season two episode six. We are rolling some episodes out here with some interviews. My name is Taylor Lawson, and I am your host.

And I am joined by, nonetheless, Aaron Pufal. Aaron? Hey, Taylor. Thanks for, having me out. Thanks for doing this, man.

Where are you? What are you drinking? I am sitting in not so sunny actually, it was beautifully sunny today here in Stockholm. And, but I have to say, when there's no cloud cover, all the heat goes away and then it gets really cold. But I can see across the lake a beautiful ski slope on the other side of Lake Maladon, and, but it's like negative five.

So it's, you know, it's not riding weather. Not not at all. It is not. What are you drinking there? I'm drinking an IPA.

I don't know. It's covered up by this koozie thing on the Bobby. I think it's a Swedish a Sweden a Sweden a new Sweden IPA. Nice. I am as we're doing this, again, morning for me, which is totally unfair, I'm doing an iced coffee, perhaps a cold toddy, they would call it, with a nice little Baileys in there.

Alright. Again, I can't complain about that. No. And I am dog-sitting. Our dog got got neutered.

He got his, his manhood ripped out of him. So I'm keeping, I think he's just grown. I'm, I'm keeping a close eye on him that he, that he does not lick himself and ruin those stitches. So we're we're on high alert over here in the Seattle area. Yep.

Nice. Very nice. I'm gonna have to, say that we don't have that situation here, but I'm sure you got it in under control over here. Yeah. Intact.

And, I wanted to ask everyone to please follow us on socials. And the handle on all socials is at ADVCannibal. And please join us on our Facebook group. Hey, Aaron. You know what?

I was looking I was looking at some information on the web this week as I often do. And do you have any idea what ranking amongst adventure motorcycle podcasts we are in the Mid Atlantic region? Number one, baby. Tell me. No.

No. No. No. No. No.

Number one is still held by Adventure Rider Radio, but we are running a close second. We're on his heels, man. It's tough chasing glory, but if we stick with it, maybe one day we'll, we'll have that spot. Maybe maybe one day we can we can we can close ranks. But but right now we're stuck.

We're stuck at number two. We'll we'll take it. Indeed. I wanted to mention some, comment on some posts on our Facebook group. And one gentleman, was saying, you know, why are you going on the freeway or the interstate on some portions of of the Cannonball Route?

And I wanted to address that because, you know, it's difficult to plan a cannonball or a tour like this that's a bit of a competition because people only have a certain amount of time. And every extra day that I put on to an event like this is another hotel cost that's that's incurred as well. So less it's there's fewer people that can participate because everyone's short on time and there's more cost involved as the day goes longer. Plus, I also feel that in the spirit of a cannonball, there are some freeway days. There are some days that we're on the open road.

And there are certain places in America that you are stuck on a straight line road. Whether you're on the freeway where we can we can crush some miles at some higher speeds or you're directly next to the freeway on a straight line, b line road going through a farmer's field. There's no difference. That's just the way it is in the doldrums of America. It can't be avoided.

Plus, another reason is I just want people on some days to get to the hotel. So let's get on the freeway. Let's let's crush those miles because it's gonna be boring no matter what, and let's get to the good stuff. Yeah. You make a good point.

I was also thinking that some of those roads potentially be like, there's some great pictures of you with your bike on Route 66. Now if I'm not mistaken, the picture with that closed section with you on Route 66 is also a straight shot. So, Yeah. You know, it's funny because when you're planning, a cannonball, I have several years worth of wish list places to go, and that particular section of Route 66 is technically closed. And it's such a fascinating study is that you can get a weenie that's gonna say, well, technically, that section of the road is closed, and we shouldn't be there.

Another issue is that you have to go around the bridges in that particular spot. So I'm okay with putting that section on a cannonball but it would most definitely have to be on a optional off road section. And there's a funny story about that section actually is I was coming from the Pacific Coast Highway last time I did it. I was on my way to Colorado, and it was by midday I was there, and I was wearing my stupid Space Ranger suit, and I had gone down around the washed out, bridge, and I got into the sand, and of course immediately I took a dirt nap, right? And so I picked up the thing I remember.

Text message. Yeah. I'm like, oh, you idiot. So, you know, after doing several days on the road, I don't know why, but as soon as I got into this this this, you know, powder like sand, I just I just tipped over. It wasn't even an accident.

I pull the bike out of there, and I'm like, time to do time to do a costume change. So my riding pants, I always take them off, but I need to put pants on because I have nothing on underneath my riding pants. Right? So here I am. I've taken my pants off, and a police truck rolls up on me.

And it's it's a woman. She's like a park ranger or something. She goes she's like, is everything okay? And she goes, listen. I'm just super hot, and, it's not anything weird going on here.

She goes, okay. And she just drives away. I'm like, first of all, I'm gonna get busted for being a closed road, and then I don't wanna have no pants on. And I'm like, this is just really bad. And, anyways, it's always That's funny.

Yeah. She was super cool, and I I just think everyone goes around those road closed signs there because you can be in the desert anyways. Right? So I think they just don't want they don't want cars on there and trucks because it's it's it's fascinating. Further down that closed section, there's some big bridges, and they're clearly intact, but it says closed on it.

So there's always that moment I'm like, I can't see over the crest of that bridge, so I'm just gonna go slow over this bridge. And then when you get over, like, yeah, it's it's pretty good on the other side. So, it's a it's a fascinating, part of the Route 66 history, and it's definitely worth, worth doing. But I'm just trying to figure out a way to incorporate that in one of the future cannonballs. Yeah.

That's a good that's a good theory. A good a good practice to get the really classic routes like that in there. I do wanna take a a detour for a second, but your your comment about getting rolled up by, but as female police officer, we have this dear friend from California. And when she was 19 years old, she was nude sunbathing in a federal park. And this young, you know, 21 year old ranger with his new gun came up, and he's sitting here and talking to her.

And and, you know, she's just hanging out there in the buff. And he gave her a ticket. Ugh. He he he gave her a ticket. And then so she had a so for the rest of her life, she it's just, like, filling out job applications.

Do you have are you ever been convicted of a federal crime? And she's like, yes, I have. And she said, more times than not, that story has gotten me the job. Oh my goodness. The fun place at it again.

Congratulations. You're saving the world. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, maybe I'm glad.

I thought Maybe he just had a tan line fetish, and he's like, why do you not have tan lines? This is this is what I'm giving you a ticket for. It's a severe violation in California. And that's something I can get by. And if if if if that's what your ticket is about, you know, to each their own, I'm I'm not I'm not gonna yuck your yum, you know?

I can get I can get I can get behind that. Hey. Oh. Alright. Do you have any, is there any, I know that we last time we talked or a couple of podcasts ago, we talked a bit about beta testing, about spot wallets.

Have you done anything with that? Is there any anything that you can share with us on that? So in the last email newsletter, I had asked for some brave souls to do some beta testing because their system has changed. There has some stuff on the back end has changed. So I'm like, can we get some brave souls before I get a one star review because, you know, something didn't go well with your registration.

So everything has gone really, really well. And I've got nothing but good feedback. And thank you. You did some of the beta testing as well. That went well.

So the next newsletter will have, links to go ahead and register for Spot Wallet. Spot Wallet is the is the web interface for displaying everyone's location data. And I want everyone to sign up for it as soon as possible, a, just to get it out of the way, b, to get used to running it, and c, it's just geeky fun. As people come online, it's fun to see people around the world populate on that map and as we all travel to the start of the cannonball, it's fun to watch all these little icons on the map start to converge on Kitty Hawk. The only thing that has changed is that Spot Walla is charging $15 for a year long membership.

I didn't know that's something new. If you're really heartbroken about the $15, just email me, and I'll refund that, from your registration fees. But that's something new that has come up. But something new that Spot Wallet does now is I was able to after, like, six hours of frustrating work, I was able to put the GPS route for the Cannonball onto that Spot Walla map. So that's on there and that's, that's super cool.

So, your your friends and family and loved ones can watch you, go across the country on the actual route, which is which is really fun. Yeah. It's it's, I have to say in this kind of a rally will also be fun. I remember when we were when we did the Alcan, the only time you could really like, where you were in when you're moving between the the, measured segments, it could be anywhere. So it's like you could be at the front of the pack, and they're like, oh, you're winning.

And, you know, that's that's not that's not how it goes. But in this, if you were at the front of the pack and, you know, it's happening during the day, you are winning. Right? You you know, potentially, but you are you are you at least you you are in that position. Whereas when we did it, if we're, you know, we're car 35 and if we were sitting in Car Seventeen's position, they'd be like, oh, you're doing great.

And it's not really the case. But in this particular rally, it does show that. Yeah. The resolution for this particular tracking system is about ten minutes. So it only shows your position about every ten minutes.

Folks that don't have a GPS based tracking device, will only report their position when they reach, a cell phone tower. So if you're using a Bubbler or on a Android device or if using SW tracker app on a iOS device, it will buffer those in your device. And the next time you come out to a cell cell tower, it will report all of those positions. So it's not you know, in this world of click on something and it works, we're in this particular realm, we're restricted to the infrastructure that is provided to us. So that's why I always say if you have the cash, go get a a Garmin inReach.

But you can also accomplish a pretty good job of it by just by using those free apps on your, on your cell phone. Yeah. Good point. I also just wanna say, you know, it is $15. At the same time, they're using that money to develop the app, so they're making it better.

They're making the user interfaces better. And, you know, the sign up was it was it was, the instructions were quite good. And then doing the beta testing on it, we got those a bit more smoothed out. But I think that, you know, they do that's not a huge amount of money. And, I'm not, you know, they're not giving me 20¢ on everyone that signs up.

I'm just saying the bottom line is that the money goes towards developing the app and making it easier for us to use. So that's fantastic. Yeah. Plus, you know, there are other people that use Spot Wallet now. It's becoming kinda like that industry standard in rally.

So even if you do an Iron Butt challenge, they it is part of your validation to use Spot Walla. If you are doing, like, the three flags type of, rally, if you're doing the independent type of rallies that go on especially on the bagger side of side of, motorcycling, more and more people are using Spot Walla as long as the person organizing your event can dedicate the days of work it takes to to set that up, but, more and more people are using it. So you may have to spend $15 on it, but there are other uses for it besides that. And talking about GPX files and geeking out here, we were talking about how a lot of people like yourself really like the turn by turn navigation and the downloading feature that I use to build my GPX files, I saw brand new showed up that I may be able to download a route, a GPX route with turn by turn navigation. I haven't done it yet, but the option is there to try it.

So perhaps, someone is brave enough to actually try it. So you mean practice it before the actual Yeah. So I'm gonna make a cover your ass statement here, which is I don't endorse anything turn by turn, especially when it comes to a rally because you're banking all of your resort all of your results based on an algorithm in a phone, which, you know, I'm not there yet. However, it may be worth trying it, and I will definitely try it. When I when I beta test the route more this summer.

I will absolutely try this new feature that seems to be saying that it is providing a turn by turn, GPX file. Now I don't know if it works, but, again, you're right again that, technology is catching up to to us old guys that perhaps, as of this year, there may be an option of a rally route to have included in that file a turn by turn based NAV. But CYA, I don't endorse it. And if if it tells you to turn the wrong way and you missed a checkpoint, hey, man. That's your problem.

And then it also goes back to the the story about, like, so when I'm crushing this and I'm coming across the finish line and you see me finishing, but I accidentally close that app down before I cross Mhmm. And then I don't get the I don't get the win point, what are you gonna say to me? Suck it up, buttercup. Don't be a weenie. Suck it up, buttercup.

Yeah. I'd be like, but, Aaron, you saw me. You saw me first. You know I stopped and took the picture. No.

Sorry. Yeah. Thanks for the post. Don't forget to tag us at a d v cannonball when you post that. Yeah.

Well, everyone else passes you and gets the win. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Hey.

I did wanna, we do have an interview that I wanna get to. But before, I wanted to circle back to one of the things that you talked about where you're talking about people interacting and and and potentially having comments about how routes should be set up. I also wanted to say that if everything was off road like, off road takes longer. I mean, that's the genius and the beauty of it. At the same time, it takes longer.

So the ADV cannonball is how many days, Aaron, start to finish? I think this year's is eight eight days. Yeah. It's a lot. Okay.

And my point is that it's not twenty or thirty days because if it was off road coast to coast, it would likely be longer. And then people would be like, oh, I don't know if I can take off three weeks for this event. So it'd be longer. So there's I mean, that ties into it. Anyway, I just wanted to throw that comment down there.

And then the second comment that I wanted to throw out is, look, if anyone is potentially thinking about doing this seriously, now is the time to sign up because I think, Aaron, at some point, maybe after the interview, you can talk about how many spots are actually left. But I see there's a comment from someone who has a really nice two 2022 KTM '8 '90. Janelle, sign up. It is time to put your money where your mouth is. And anybody who's thinking about it.

But we'll come back after we talk about the interview with Conrad, we can talk about how many spots you actually have left. Yeah. Why don't you tell us about the interview? And I edited it and it was great, but Conrad is your buddy and it was a great interview. And maybe you can tee it up for us.

Yeah. Alright. Good. So, what's interesting is I've never actually met Conrad in person. So, so Conrad is a Swede living in America, and I am an American living in Swede in in Sweden.

And he was introduced to me by another American friend of mine, named Chris. And Chris actually runs a motorcycle friendly bed and breakfast inn on the island of Uhland. It's that the o with the two dots above it. It actually means that letter itself means island, so it's the island island. But it is so it's Oren, and it's it's a long skinny island on the Southeast Of Sweden.

And he lives on that with his wife, and they converted an old farm into, get this, like a bed and breakfast. They've got eight room bed and breakfast, which is really nice. They have a brew pub or not a brew pub, but they have a a pub that they have, during the winter. They also have a yoga studio, and then they have, climbing. What else do they have?

They got a lot going on there for this for this, converted barn area, but it's also motorcycle friendly. So there's a lot of bikes that tour that particular area. So, anyway, Chris was kind enough. He's a family friend. We've known him since Fort Lauderdale.

You'll hear about that in the interview, and we also know him from the yachting background as well. And and that is how Conrad met his wife, Agnietta, Aggie. And so we were chatting. I was chatting with Chris. They came out here, and they spent some time with us over New Year's.

And he's like, oh, you've gotta meet my buddy, Conrad. You gotta talk to Conrad. He said, he just did a trip. He took his motorcycle. He went down to Medellin.

I was like, you mean he went down to Colombia in, like, in Colombia? And he took a motorcycle up into the woods, into the forest, up into the, like, into the jungle? And he's like, yeah. Not once, but twice. So, anyway, that is what I wanted to ask him about.

So that's what that's what and Conrad's got a great, a great origin story. So with that tee up, roll the interview. Registration is now open to the public for the next ADV Cannonball rally. All riders on any motorcycle are welcome to join the adventure. Whether you're looking for an exciting and highly organized coast to coast ride with a group of like minded riders or a friendly competition for cannonball glory, it doesn't matter.

Everyone can participate. Head over to advcannonball.com to secure your rally starting position today. Now back to the podcast. Conrad, thanks very much for making the time to, to sit and have a chat about, yeah, about motorcycles, about adventure motorcycles in particular. And, you are the first interview that we're doing on the the series called Everyday Adventure Rider.

So you're our first guy, and you were really inspiration for me to, to do this series. And, it's going to be people that we're doing, the India trip with. It's people that we've met. It's people who are doing the Alcan, sorry. It's people who are doing the, adventure cannonball rally, and that's in October starting in Kitty Hawk in this year.

And really, what this is, the reason you inspired me is I remember I said, You shared some of your background with me about the trip you had done. One of the things I thought was really interesting is your trip to Medellin, which I'd like to talk to you about. And one thing that I thought, I said, I want to talk to you on the podcast about it. And you said, Look, I'm just your average guy. And I was like, that's the point.

Alright. Alright. You are the average guy. That's exactly the point. So, anyway, with that, welcome to the podcast, and thanks for being our first guy in.

Oh, thank you so much. I'm I'm really looking forward to this. It's It's it's really exciting. Yeah. Super.

So, you know, a fun way to start is, something that you gave me a bit of history on is is you. So, how is it that you came to be interested in motorcycles? Where was your where'd you get your first bike? Where are you from? Yeah.

Yeah. So so I grew up, out in the countryside of Sweden, about hour and a half south of Stockholm. And in in countryside of Sweden, probably most, places on the countryside, motor sports is a big thing. A lot of people tinkers with their car, motorcycles, and so on. And, when I grew up, in Sweden countryside, eighties, mopeds was a big thing.

Just about everybody had a moped, which is, it's, it was restricted to less than 50 cc, and I had had less than one horsepower. And just about every every teenage kid had one. It was a way to get around. Everybody tinker with their mopeds and and, of course, made sure that they had more than one horsepower and more than 50 cc. And and that's really how it got started.

You know, tinkering with mopeds and and and building and driving around, the country country roads in Sweden. Yeah. That's a that's a, it it actually still is the rule here in Sweden. Oh, okay. And, yeah.

So it's 50 is the, yeah, your moped licenses, less than less than 50 cc. So they're 49 cc motorcycles. But as you say, there's a lot of people that we I was on my tenor recently, and I was on a country road, Landsberg, and, I don't know. It was it was in the seventies zone, so I was probably doing well, for for the record, exactly, 70. I'm sure.

Yep. And I got passed by someone on one of these mopeds, and I was like, Dude, that's supposed to be 49 cc. And I'm sitting on, again, only 700, but still, they rip on me like I was going backwards. Yep. Yep.

Remember those days. So yeah. So, you had that you had the moped, and then and then, what did you graduate into? Yes. I I had a number of mopeds in in various shapes and forms, most of them old and and barely working, but most of the time, they at least one of them worked.

After that, I think my first real motorcycle was a Yamaha d t one twenty five, what was referred to as a lightweight motorcycle in in Sweden. Yep. Never had a motorcycle license for it. It was just cost prohibited. But, I could still ride it, on the on the country roads, where there, you know, really wasn't any police around.

So that was my my first real motorcycle. Enjoyed it very much. I had it, after that was, probably a 600 cc Yamaha FZR in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Oh. Yeah.

That was Nice. That was a that was a very nice bike at that time. It was very fast. At least, you know, this was in the mid to early nineties, and and it was a little bit souped up. Probably had about, my guess, around 70 horsepower.

But, back then, that was that was really fast. I remember Yeah. I mean, that'll still get the job done. Right? Oh, for sure.

That's a great machine. Yep. For sure. So where are you sitting right now? Right now, I'm sitting in Jupiter, Florida.

That that's where I lived for the past, twenty years, and I've lived in in Florida pretty much for the past almost thirty years. Alright. There's a, I'll do a a quick segue here into how we met, and that's through a a friend of ours named Chris who was in the yachting business as we were. Now you you had a stint in the yachting business as well, and that's when you crossed Chris Chris Chris's path. Right?

Yeah. It was actually yeah. That was back in the I think it was actually spring of nineteen ninety two. I was in Fort Lauderdale, you know, looking for jobs on yachts. Always been amazed by yachts, and Fort Lauderdale is sort of the mecca for yachting.

I I think it still is even today. Yeah. It really is. Yeah. I actually I live at a crew house, which is sort of a a youth hostel for for people who aren't in the yachting business.

Joanne's crew house, looking for work. And Yeah. And Yeah. And Chris' wife, Aggie, was there at the time. So I really, met Aggie before I met Chris.

So Aggie and I actually worked on the same yacht for a few months, went over to Europe, worked a little bit in the med, and then stayed in touch with with Aggie over the years. And when a few years later when she was married to Chris, Chris actually became our realtor, and we bought our first house and sold our first house, through Chris. Oh, interesting. Fantastic. Yep.

My wife and I bought a duplex from Chris as well before we ended up, Oh, really? Yeah. Before they moved to Sweden. Yeah. It was before 02/2006 when the market went crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or went down, shall I say. But, yeah, then, I think at that point in time, 02/2006, '2 thousand '7, that's when they had, I don't know the exact date, but that's when they had moved over to Sweden.

So what's interesting is the we got two Americans we're talking about, me and Chris, and we're living in Sweden. And you, sir, if I do recall, you have a Swedish passport, and you're living in The States. So it's a bit of a role reversal here. Yeah. Yeah.

For sure. Yeah. Born and raised in Sweden. And, whenever I'm in in in Florida, people refer to me as a Sweden. And it's becoming when I'm in Sweden, people refer to me as the American.

So I'm I'm always a foreigner wherever I am. Yeah. That's that's so funny because that's what they call me at work as well. Yeah. So, one of the things that you shared with me in when we started talking about your background and I was like, I wanna talk to you on this podcast, is you shared with me that you went to to Colombia and you did a couple of trips down there.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It was back in 2023, so not that long ago. Spring of twenty three.

My neighbor here in Florida, Jack, he has an apartment down in Medellin, and he he suggested that my wife and I go down there and and visit Medellin, Colombia. And and, as as I'm sort of dabbling in an adventure riding, I said that that sounds like a great great thing. But it's probably better that my wife meets up with me in Medellin, and I go, few days before her and do, the motorcycle ride. So I'm still starting to search the web, to rent an adventure bike in in Colombia, and I came across this Colombia Motor Adventure website. An American guy who actually runs a motorcycle rental company in Medellin.

So I contacted him, and he arranges, guided tours or or if you just wanna rent your own bike, whichever way you wanna go. So I I reserved a Suzuki DR six fifty. And Now why'd you take the six fifty? Yes. So before going down there, I really wanted a bigger bike.

I wanted, like, a GS twelve fifty or or, something like that. Yeah. But that was down there, that's really the biggest bike that you can get on on sort of on an everyday basis. You you can get bigger. I've seen some GS 12 fifties.

I've seen some bigger KTMs, Multistradas. But, you know, the the d r six fifty is a very common bike. They're the the police use them as well, so it's sort of the the reliable common motorcycle. The Colombians themselves think it's a big bike. It's it's a big badass bike.

Yeah. And and Yeah. And and I thought I would Having yeah. I was gonna say that when I had mine, I mean, I thought it was an amazing machine, and then the fact that you could get parts everywhere. So, obviously, if they're using it in in, in government service, the access to available parts is probably pretty easy.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. No. Yeah.

It's it's sort of and I think that was referring to the Suzuki d r six fifty as a sort of the bush hog. You know? It it goes through anything. It doesn't break down, and it's very reliable. And Yeah.

Actually, as it turns out, as as I was down there riding, I was on some two track roads, pretty small, and and I was happy. The the bike was perfectly fine. It was I don't think there was any time I was like, oh, I wish I had a bigger bike. It was maybe some parts on a paved road, a longer stretches. But Yeah.

But no. It was perfectly fine. It was a good bike for that. That's good to hear. So let me ask you.

So the, the gentleman who had this, either a tour or simply a motorcycle rental, you could go either way with that. Now as I understand that you just took the bike and went on your own adventure. That's right. And and that's part of the way I like the the motorcycle adventure riding is to look at the map yourself, come up for your own route, study, you know, spend evening study Google map or or whatever, application you use for mapping and and see how this looks interesting, and this looks interesting. I wanna go there.

And then you sort of you sort of build an image in your mind of what you're gonna see and what you're gonna experience. And then then, hopefully, you get to see that that very thing when you're out there looking at it. Yeah. That's very cool. So it was it was, first of all, let me ask you.

So this is in 2023, and were there concerns I mean, if you think about you know, we've all we've all watched Scarface. We've all watched Johnny Depp and Blow. We've seen all these movies, you know, Tom Cruise and American Made. There's a lot of activity, and a lot of this filming was and it happened in that part of the world, or it was intended to be in that part of the world. The point I'm making is that there's obviously security risks.

How did you how did you sort of approach that? How did you handle that? Yes. So I was a little bit concerned at the beginning or before I actually traveled there. And and, you know, reading old newspapers and just talking to people here in Florida, there there's a big, influx of of Colombians living in Florida, especially Miami.

And and I lived in Miami for about five years, had had many Colombian friends, still have Colombian friends. I was actually in a Colombian Swedish wedding in Stockholm this past summer. So Wow. Still That sounds like fun. That might be a whole different story.

It's a different podcast. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It was very fun.

Thanks to the Maya family who who, who are Colombians who lived in Sweden for a while and now are in Miami. But yeah. So, I I was concerned about it, and I was inviting some friends to, come with me and ride with me, but no one accepted. Everybody declined. And there were a few days before I took off, and I was thinking to myself, am I am I doing something completely crazy here?

Am I am I Yeah. Am I pushing this a little bit too far, this adventure riding? But as I got down there, I I didn't I I didn't experience any anything that scared me. Everybody was super friendly, super helpful. I was actually stopped by the police at one place, and I I expected Takashaktan or or something.

But, little. Yeah. Yeah. But there was nothing. It was, they were super friendly, professional, and I actually didn't have the right papers for the motorcycle.

But, they asked for my passport, and I showed my passport. And and I spoke the very little Spanish I can to them and explained the situation as best as I can. No problems at all. I I actually asked the one of the police officers there if if we could take a picture together and and the yeah. Sure.

Absolutely. And and so I have a I have a picture of the me and a and a police talking and and yeah. No. I I was I I didn't see any any concerns with with respect to safety. Now should you go in a bad That's good.

Yeah. Should you go in a bad neighborhood of a city and throw money around you, be drunk? No. But I don't think you should do that anywhere. Yeah.

No. That's really that's really you shouldn't do that in Fort Lauderdale for sure not. Right. Right. Right.

Yeah. No. So so go ahead. Yeah. No no safety concerns.

And now, you know, I'm I'm I'm Swedish, and and I'm sort of naive by nature. But, I I think a lot of times that helps because, you know, I'm just trying to be happy guy and talk to people. And and I I think that people look at me and as as I'm no threat. Here's just a gringo. Wanna travel around and and so yeah.

No no no no issues there. Yeah. That's really good. It's interesting. I find the, having lived in Sweden now for almost twelve years, what you said was, was naive, but I find that the the the Swedish people are kind and they're shy.

And I think that they truly come from a place of wanting to explore and to see new things and meet people. There's a huge difference I find between Swedes outside of Sweden and Swedes in Sweden. So like you, being outside, you want to explore and go out there, and you get into Sweden and you're a foreigner and you're trying to sort of break into what's happening in Sweden, and then it's a little bit closed. So the shy the shy part is hard to get past, but, genuinely, I find people just good all over the world. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. I would say that the most people in the world are good people who wanna who want no harm at all. So Yeah. So this was not only such a a successful trip the first time, but you went back a second time.

Yeah. Yeah. This past October, I went back with my brother. My brother, who's a adventure rider, probably more so than I am, he's currently on a trip from Eastern Brazil, to Peru. Wow.

Yep. Yep. I spoke with him last night, and he was in Central, Central Brazil, stop for the night. I believe it was in the city of Petrolina. So, yeah, he my brother and I went back this past October for a four day ride, and we did pretty much the same ride as I did, the previous year.

A little bit different, but, we had a great time. Yeah. It was awesome. So let me let's let's just deep dive into that trip for a minute. So, obviously, you rented the bike, and then you mentioned that there was some city aspect of it.

So, like, I'm curious to know where'd you pick up the bike? How long until you got out? Did were you camping? Were you staying in, you know, lodges? Were you staying in hotels?

What are what what are the day to day look like on that trip for you? Yeah. So, I had, the mote Columbia Moto Adventure, Jeff, there, he arranged, for me to be picked up with the cab. So stayed, when I was there the first time myself, I stayed at, Jack's apartment in Medellin, pretty much in in Central Medellin. Jeff at, Columbia Moto Adventure arranged for a cab to come and pick me up and then, rode over to the house where he keeps the motorcycles and such, and got outfitted there, tried on the gear, tried the motorcycle, and then off I went.

And and that was just an accelerating feeling to to sort of drive up in the mountains and sort of drive into the clouds, which is so beautiful, so beautiful, with a fun motorcycle. Rented the whole, like, the whole kit, helmet, boots, all safety gear, everything you rented from him? I I brought my pants, my jackets, my boots, rented a helmet from him. But now he he has all of that. If you want the whole package, he got it all.

My Oh, cool. My preference was to bring on my my own boots, my jacket, my my pants. I rented, the helmet from him because it's just bulky, to carry with, and I just do carry on when I'm flying 99% of the time. So, helmets are hard hard to travel with. In in some countries, it's really hard.

They want you to check them. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Yep.

So, and then I had hotels oh, not yeah. There was hotels along the way in small towns. And the, I stayed at sort of local places. I tried to stay away from the big chains. Even there aren't as many big chains down there as as we have here in The States, but Uh-huh.

State is local, private hotels, and and they're just beautiful. Most of them are just gorgeous because it's the colonial architecture, which is which is very nice. I really appreciate that culture. So, yeah, you get this big lock to your room, and then and it's beautiful hardwood floor and and a lot of hardwood trim and big beams and and really high to the ceiling. And and because the the temperature in the area is so nice, there's typically never air conditioning because you really don't need air conditioning.

So, also, when you're inside the hotels and such, it's open to the to the, you know, to the nature, and and it's not uncommon that you have a tree growing in the middle of the hotel and out through, you know, the hotels. It it really makes it beautiful. Yeah. And I think the What time of year? I was what so What Last time my brother and I did in October, and the year before was in March.

But up in this region, I don't think it really matters very much. This is slight variation how much rain it falls, but up around Medellin in that general area, because of the elevation and proximity to the Equator, they call it they have the internal spring. It's it's spring all the time. The the the season doesn't really change much. I'm sure there's some little variation.

But but in general, you can travel there any time of the year, and and you will have good temperate weather. It's not gonna be if you're from Sweden cold and and you just wanna be warm, that is not the place to go to, because Yeah. You're not. Gonna be it's gonna be like Swedish summer. It's essentially Okay.

Yeah. Good Swedish summer. That's sort of the weather, but year round. But the nice thing about that is that it was one of the things that I love about riding in Sweden in the summer is that, the climate is that you can wear your protective gear, and you can still be comfortable out there. You're not necessarily sweating when you put on some, yeah, protective jacket or Yeah.

Pads. Absolutely. And and I I would say in in Colombia at this location, it's different by the coast in Colombia, but up in the mountains where I was. Yeah. You can do that, which is tough down here in Florida where I live.

I I ride a a Harley Davidson Fatboy, from 1995, which has a Nice. EVO engine, which runs very hot. And, it's difficult to wear protective gears, and it gets really hot really quickly. Alright. So that's not the like, so are you the guy who rides around shorts and flip flops, blasting up and down a one a?

No. No. I wear my jeans and and and a and a helmet. And I I don't drive fast. I really just drive a one a for the most part.

This is sort of a beach cruiser. I don't even like to get on I 95 in the turnpike because the bike really isn't made to go more than 55, because of the wind drag and and the age of the bike. But cruiser long a one a is that's that's very nice. Yeah. That's always nice on any bike, but especially something where you can really feel the breeze.

That's nice to hear. Yep. Yep. For sure. Yeah.

That's great. So do you have any other trips planned down to South America? No. Not at the moment. I wanted I want to go down and ride with my brother.

We talked about going down to Southern Brazil this spring, but then his, his trip from Brazil to Peru came up. And, I I can't make that long of a journey now because of my job and so on. Yeah. So it's it's possible that I will meet up with him in Peru and do some writing in Peru, but nothing set in stone there just yet. Yeah.

Alright. That sounds like fun. Maybe we have to, have him on the pod as well at some point here and, get a download about what his what his trip is like. While we were on the topic of protective gear, I I you know, in cooler climates, I like to wear as much protective gear as I can. That's reasonable.

And I remember, I think it was this first day on my first trip to Colombia. I was up in the mountains, and riding my motorcycle and starting to feel really comfortable with the bike. And because it always takes a few hours to get adjusted to to a new bike. And and I have my my space suit on, which is, you know, the my my my pants, my jackets, the the full face helmet. And I'm riding down this, road, and and I'm thinking I'm a badass.

I'm leaning in the curves, and I'm I'm just like, I'm so cool. And and in in in Colombia, this is a big bike, and and I think I'm going so fast. And as I'm in the turn, leaning over, there is, like, a 50 cc bike passing me with with with with two school girls riding. The the the passenger looking at me like I'm some sort of alien, and they just sit right by me. Oh, yes.

The the local the local people there that you know, they're they're born on on switchback roads, and they really know how to ride their bikes. The only way you really can get away from them is is you can accelerate after the turn. But to to to drive fast and then what they do in the turns, it's almost impossible. It's nuts. Exactly right.

Yeah. Yep. So let me ask you, the terrain that you're riding on, when you're on the DR 650 in Medellin, so were you mainly on on paved roads? Were you I guess, they're also called sealed roads, I heard recently. So paved roads or were you they dirt?

What what was it like? You said at one point, you mentioned double track. Yeah. Yeah. So it was I would say it's really a fifty fifty.

50 paved, 50 off road, which makes the d R really good choice there. And I think the speed limit there is probably about, on the bigger roads, hundred kilometers per hour, and the D r six fifty does just fine on that. So that that was fine, but it really was fun on the on the on the two track roads. When I came to a little place called, Jardin, which is a a small town, up in the hills. After that, the paved road ends.

So I was driving from, a small town called Jardin to another small town called Riosusio. And that is, yeah, you're way up in the mountains. And when I was there the first time, they were actually, as I as I left hard Haradin, Google Maps told me to turn around. Turn around. You're going the wrong way.

But I kept going and and, you know, getting higher and higher in elevation. And then the this paved road turns into two track road, and now and then you have little creeks crossing, crossing the the path. And vegetation is is amazing, and you're up in the clouds. And then I come up on a a mudslide. It's essentially the the hillside, has collapsed down onto the road.

Oh. Yeah. So but there's there's a crew of probably five, six local people there working on clearing a path through through that mudslide. So I I stopped there and and, they sort of hurry up to clear a smaller path for me to get across. Very nice of that.

Nice. So Yeah. Probably after half an hour or so, I could cross it, and and I was very thankful. And they so there was another Colombian young couple on a small motorcycle coming right after me, and and they were struggling a little bit as well to get across. But, it just was was almost fun, like, back in the days when I was cleaning my sandbox.

So I couldn't help myself from grabbing a shovel as well, and it it looked cool. So you wouldn't help them dig it out? So they were they so they didn't have any heavy machinery from what I understand. No. They were actually digging this out by hand.

Yeah. Yeah. Shovels. Shovels and picks. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So Wow. So I So a team of guys see you went over there and saw there's an act there's a there's an extra shovel. I'll just go help dig this road away.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they laughed so hard at me and and but it was fun. And and we got the other couple across as well on their motorcycle.

And then I gave, gave, I gave the local guys there some cash just as thanks for hurrying up to to get me across. I don't know if that was at the moment, I wasn't sure if it was a right or wrong thing to do, but I did it anyway. I kept on riding and came up on a second, mudslide, where the hillside had collapsed down onto the road again probably about five kilometers later on. There were some other people stuck there as well. Not not literally stuck, but but waiting for it to be cleared.

But, we've we found a path to get across it on the outside of the of the big mound of dirt that had piled up on the dirt road. But, shortly thereafter, I realized that I had a flat tire. I was losing yeah. I was losing air. So I limped on to, like, a little outpost, where where I started to change the inner tube.

And and I'm no good mechanic, so I was working on changing the inner tube on the on the rear tire. And by doing that, I pinched a hole in the spare tire on the spare tube. Yeah. Oh, I've done that before. That's really strange.

Very frustrating. But Yeah. I've done that. Yeah. Well, then the, one of the local guys caught up with us at that time who'd been working on the road, and he helped me take the spare tube for the front wheel and use it as a spare tire as spare tube in the rear.

And and even though it's not ideal, it it worked so I could limp on to the nearest town and get it correctly fixed. Yeah. Wow. I was gonna I was gonna say that the the first round, the guys radioed ahead, and they're like, hey. If you put some dirt on the road, there's this American choice like a marshal who would definitely pay you to clear a path.

Maybe that was a way. It's possible. Yep. Yeah. No.

I remember that. It was a Saturday, and and I was limping into town. And I was thinking Saturday, it was about 05:00 or so. There's no way that the tire shop's gonna be open. And I think, like, the third or fourth little store was a tire shop, but it was full action there and people hanging out, and they were working on motorcycles.

And I think it was forty five minutes later, I had a new tube in, and everything was good to go. That's really nice. It's really nice when you can go in. And it sounds like what you've done in your travels is that you've really just embraced local culture and said, Yeah, you show up with a very, you know, very trusting, perspective. And then you put yourself into the environment, and people just take care of you.

They really do. It's nice. I find people around the world who are amazing, and they're really generous, and they want to show their generosity, and they want to show how great their country is. And people are really proud, and I think that that really shows. And especially in the Latin countries, I love traveling down there.

Sounds like you had a great experience too. Totally agree. It's it's, they they were really helpful, nice people. Even on the last trip with my brother, the oil cooler on my motorcycle started to leaking, and and we rolled up on a little garage. And they were so helpful.

They they made it work to, you know, a temporary patch to make it work. While while they were working on a motorcycle, they took us to a a local restaurant, and my brother and I sat there and had lunch while they were fixing the the the oil leak on the on the oil cooler. And and, yeah, and it was no problem. And and you think they would rip us off because we couldn't we didn't have much of a choice. We were in a terrible situation to negotiate, but still no crazy money.

It was just what seemed reasonable. Yeah. That's it always makes me restore faith in humanity when I hear stories like that about there was a perfect opportunity to take advantage of someone there. And then they were like, no. This is just what we do, and they take care of you.

That's amazing. I love that. Yep. For sure. Yeah.

So, I'm I'm still curious about the aspect in terms of your when you when you set out to do this trip, you did research on that, and you obviously talked to your neighbor who had an apartment down there. Was your neighbor who had the flat in Medellin? Is is that a Colombian person? No. He he's he's American, a great guy, Jack.

He he travels a lot around the world, and he he does a lot of voluntary work. He does he builds stuff just about all over the world. He he goes to Okay. Poor communities, and and he helped, families in need to to, you know, if they need a new bathroom or or a shed or something like that. So, yeah, American guy who who has an apartment down there.

Okay. Gotcha. The reason I asked that is because I was thinking that maybe you had some local knowledge. Obviously, he was he's a he's a guy who has a flat there and gave you some local knowledge. And, again, a lot of people have apprehension.

What about just going and doing things quite often? That's one of the things that, if we tie this back into the the the cannonball or to into any rally for that matter, just having the desire and the confidence in your own abilities to say, I'm gonna go do it. That really is, I think that's fantastic. I think more and more people should have that type of an outlook, on life because it's out there. Just, you know, go grab it, and it just takes doing it sometimes.

Oh, for sure. For sure. Absolutely. And if you if you're scared of people and and think that everybody's evil, you're gonna you you're gonna have, not fun traveling, but but you're open and and, you know, just be smart about it. It's you're gonna meet a lot of nice people.

Yeah. I think so as well. So let me ask you. In terms of, rallies, I know that your current machine is not set up to travel across the country. As you just said, it's built to go 50 down the beach.

Well well, my the previous owner, a coworker of mine, he he rode that very motorcycle from California to here. So you can do it, but I'm not gonna be in a cannonball race on it. You're not gonna you're not gonna be the cannonball on that one. Alright. Well, it just so happens that you go ahead.

I'm sorry. Not on that motorcycle. Yeah. No. Not on that one.

Just so you know, in case you are interested, I read the newsletter that Aaron put out, and there is still, the triple black '20 twenty three GSA twelve fifty, which is the one that I rode when I was out there, in Colorado. It was a brand new bike, and they had just pretty much taken the taken the plastic off and put the tag on it, and they were like gave him the keys. I was like, are you sure you wanna do this? Nice. Nice.

Anyway, that it's an amazing machine. He's got it tricked out, but that's that is, that's still as of today, which I believe is the February 8, that was still available for the ADV. So if you know of anyone who's interested, yeah, to rent, to to do the ADV cannonball on that. I know my brother is very interested. I can't make it because I have a trip to, the Mediterranean scheduled for that very time.

But when I told my brother about the race, he is really interested. I can't make it this year. I know my brother is gonna try to make it. I hope next next time it's happening, I I hope that my brother and I could do it together. That that would be that would be awesome.

That's sort of my future things I wanna do. Yep. Fantastic. I have to say, you know, Aaron Aaron's he's hardly getting pressure. So this was, the last I talked to him two nights ago, and he had already closed out I think there was seven rooms left.

Again, it's booked by room, so there's 30 rooms total, and you can have obviously double occupancy in there. So for example, you and your brother would be able to rent or or secure one room and two positions in the rally. So I know I think there's seven rooms left. So there's a pot there's a the possibility of a maximum of 14 more riders, but it's been about fifty fifty, so probably it'll be somewhere around another, you know, eight or nine riders. Gotcha.

Gotcha. Anyway. Yeah. So, it seems like the the fact that you've not only done this, you've done this once, but the down to, you've taken the Doctor and you've rented the Doctor six fifty, not just once, but twice, I have to say that this qualifies you as an ADV cannonball badass. And yes, indeed it does.

Even though even though you did admit to being passed by school cars on a 49 cc motorcycle, that makes you even more the badass in my book. So you should see some swag showing up in your mail here, and we hope that you display that with pride. That will be coming from Aaron. He'll get that over to you. So with that, you are our full fledged member here of the ADV Badass Club, And I also love to say Very proud of that.

Yeah. Excellent. So we have an opportunity to hopefully see you in one of these upcoming rallies. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

And thanks very much for sharing your story. I think one of the most important things, and again, back to you being the inspiration for the Everyday Adventure Riders series, is the idea that you're like, you know, I'm just your average guy. And that's it. That's exactly the point, is that we're just average guys. We just like motorcycles, and we put some things in place to be able to communicate about it and to ensure that people have an opportunity to continue riding in an in an organized way with a with a goal in mind in in the in the case of the ADV cannonball.

It's Redondo Beach. So I thank you very much for taking the time. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Is Colombia safe?

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Are you ready? Visit columbianmotorcycletour.com and start your adventure today. So, Aaron, what'd you think of that interview? I think, he's a super nice guy. Sounds like he should have his own podcast, but, but I was really impressed.

I was really impressed, with this chat. I liked his origin story. I loved the idea of ripping around, on a scooter when he was a kid. That's something, that I never had. So I was, super jealous and interested to hear to hear about that.

Yeah. You know what I think that I in the interview, you could hear me. I kept going back to it, and it was the safety aspect. And my big takeaway from that is that it's safe. Medellin, not only is it beautiful and temperate all year round, but at the same time, you can go there and you can rent a bike, and you can have an experience that is very authentic and safe.

Enjoy great food, great company, nice people who don't wanna take advantage of you. And and the pictures and the pictures he sent, the, the picture of him digging out that road, that is is really cool. So, Yeah. The guy there with the great big machete. But, you know, in the jungle, a machete is just like someone having a weed whacker here.

It's just a tool to get the jungle out of the way. And to to to reiterate on the safety thing, we have the same conversation with every Canadian coming off the ferry heading down to the Baja. Well, you know, is it safe? I'm like, just everyone stop. There are tour companies operating down there.

They'll help you get on your bike. They'll give you some travel tips or they'll lead a lead a a tour with you. And, for some reason, this, this topic, I think it's we just are attracted to negativity, and, it's just not, it's just not founded. Yeah. And and before we step off that topic, I also wanna say that's one of the things that was really important when we were looking to find partners to ensure that we had a good trip in, in India.

So we've got some really good local partners there to ensure exactly that, that we've got, permitting. We've got it it's handling it safely and also making sure that we do it in a way that allows us to acclimate. So if you can't if you if you're not enjoying it, then there's no reason to go do it. So all the things that we do, really are put in place to make sure that you're safe, and you can go back, and it's a repeatable thing. So that's the important part.

Yeah. The fact that he went back twice is important. You know, I've I've had to deal with, you know, overseeing security, you know, for my whole professional career. And Yeah. The only time there's ever an issue is because you're doing something at 3AM and, you know, you you're signing up for trouble.

But if you're just stopping at a gas station at noon and you're getting a snack, you're probably not gonna get into trouble. It's 3AM and nothing happened good at at at 3AM. You know? Yeah. I get that you got you got a really good point there.

So and some people might make that hour a little bit different, but I think 3AM probably works for you, Aaron. Listen. I'm getting older. Those days are far and few between anymore. If the shoe fits, if the motors are not blue fits, wear it.

That's hell. Alright. Hey. What do you say we talk about a bit of of of of, cannonball news? Yeah.

I know we're running along, so I'll try to blast through it quick here, but it's important. So we have one GSA for rent still, but there's only one spot open on shipping. So there's one so there's one GSA available for rent, for the Cannonball, and that comes with shipping to to and from the start line. And speaking of shipping, we have one spot to the start line, and we have four four spots from the finish line. So please, if you're looking for shipping or a rental, get with me as soon as possible, especially for the start of the rally.

And I want to mention we are still looking for a YouTuber, someone to help us tell the story of the first annual, ADV cannonball, someone who is interested in in in telling that cinematic, story, and I think would make a really, interesting video for their content, and it would also help us to spread the word. And let's do sign ups. So let's do three sign ups here. So we have Pete. Pete from PA.

He is on a r twelve fifty r t. Great bike for this. And Eric from New Jersey. Eric is on a Triumph Tiger 900. That's a pretty badass bike.

That's awesome. Nice. Very nice. And, we have Carrie. Carrie from North Carolina, and he is also on a Triumph Tiger, but he's on the Rally Pro, which I also think is a 900.

I'm not sure. But there are two Triumph Tigers there, Rally Pro editions. And they're, and they are all signed up, ready to go. So thanks, guys, for signing up. Nice.

So say it again. How many spots are left? I mean, we go by room. Right? So we're going by room.

Yeah. Let's go look here. So we have I think bear with me. Gotta press a button. We have 6.5 rooms.

So we have six and a half rooms, and the half is there because someone's asked for double occupancy. So there are six and a half rooms, and it is February 13. I don't know when this will make it to the air, but, please just go to the Cannonball website and click on the 2025, and I try my best to keep it as real time as possible. Alright. That's good.

Good advice. And, again, for anybody who is out there and they're considering it, like, there's there's there's a bunch of people who have already decided that this is gonna be a fun event, and, and please join because of the fact that you're you're part of this community. And it's really nice. Like, I'm looking at the chats that are happening on the Facebook page, and it's really, really fun to see this sense of community that's being built. So, join it.

Yeah. It's a it's a it's a small world, and you'll find that people I made a a Venn diagram on the, book club page, the motorcycle book club page on the Cannonball website. And it's so interesting how we have so many commonalities, in hobbies and interests and, things like that. So the more people chat on the Facebook group, the more, people are more similar than than not. So that's fun.

And, I wanted people to contribute to the Spotify playlist. So just email me at podcast@advcannonball.com. And one last note to competitors, please start to pay attention to the newsletters because those are more geared towards information that may be important to you. So please pay attention to the newsletters that start to come out. And by the way, I had to pay, like, $30 a month for this email service.

So, it's it's important that you pay attention to those to those emails with the with the new fancy service we have. Yeah. I just wanna comment on those. I find them, like, as as I sent the last one back to you, and I was like, it really shows, it shows personality. I think it matches sort of what's going on here in this podcast.

And, and they're funny. So you get you get a bit of Aaron Strikes sense of humor. It's quite fun. Or have to suffer with it. One of the two.

Well, you know, that's really what I was trying to say, but I was being polite. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'm gonna put some extra Baileys in my coffee this morning. Yeah.

Actually actually, let's get let's get that going. Nice. Alright. Well, that's that's all I have, Taylor. So maybe we should, we should close this one up unless you have something to to add.

Nope. I think that's it. It's always fun. Just wanna say thanks very much for taking the time to join me in this, and I know how busy you're getting. This is getting, like this is, like, two full time jobs trying to to manage all of the aspects of doing this.

So, anyway, thanks for making the time. Thanks for doing all the work to get this going. And, with that, let's call it a wrap. Alright. Let's roll the outro.

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